The futureNYCSubway

  1. Introduction
  2. IND Second System
  3. Post War Expansion
  4. The Second Ave Subway: History
  5. The Second Ave Subway: To The Bronx and the Nassau Line
  6. Brooklyn: Bushwick Trunk Line
  7. Manhattan: West Side and Hudson Crossings
  8. Queens: Flushing Trunk Line
  9. Staten Island: The Last Frontier
  10. TriboroRX and Atlantic Ave Super-Express
  11. Conclusion: the vanshnookenraggen plan

11 thoughts on “future NYC Subway

  1. Your extension of the N to LAG should not go down Ditmars Bvd. For one thing, the sharp right turn at 31st and Ditmars is physically impossible. It needs to continue up 31st past 20th Ave, than right turn to 19th Ave, to the airport.

  2. Umm…label the stops so we know what names you have for your future stations.
    Also, I can’t tell the difference between original stops and new added stops.

  3. I think there should be a line from the 7 at 111th St or Mets/Willet Point(and even better – LaGuardia) to E,F,A,V and H and M at Union Turnpike. I believe such a line existed during the 1939 world fair. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IND_World's_Fair_Line If from LaGuardia it would provide access to the south and reduce the traffic on the #7 when folks have to backtrack to 74th St Broadway to catch the E,F, etc

  4. Maybe include a stop at Queens College – from Citi Field through Queens College to Union Turnpike comes to 3.15 miles. Of course, it would be underground.

  5. BEFORE I RETIRED, I WORKED IN LONG ISLAND CITY. I WAS CONSTANTLY RIDING THE E & G-TRAINS TO AND FROM MY JOB. I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WONDERING WHEN AND WHERE THE G-TRAIN WOULD GO IN MANHATTAN, IF IT EVER DID. WELL WONDER NO MORE, THAT BECAME OVIOUS WHEN THE 7-TRAIN ROUTE WAS EXTENDED. DID YOU FIGURE IT OUT? THE ANSWER IS: PAIR-UP THE F & M-TRAINS ON 63RD STREET AND THE E & G-TRAINS ON 53RD STREET. THE E,F & M-TRAIN DESTINATIONS REMAIN THE SAME AND THE G-TRAIN CONTINUES SOUTH ON ITS ORIGINAL ROUTE. THE ENTIRE NEW ROUTE FOR THE G-TRAIN WOULD BE: 2ND AVENUE & HOUSTON STREET VIA SIXTH AVENUE IN MANHATTAN-TO-CHURCH AVENUE IN BROOKLYN. IF THE NEED ARISES, THE F-TRAIN WOULD GO EXPRESS IN BROOKLYN BYPASSING CARROLL, SMITH, 4TH AVENUE, 15TH STREET AND FORT HAMILTON. THE ONLY THING NECESSARY IS TO RECONFIGURE THE UPPER-LEVEL OF THE COURT STREET STATION SO THAT THE G-TRAIN HAS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO DO THIS. THIS WOULD BE THE CHEAPEST AND ONLY ALTERNATIVE.

  6. WHEN THE COURT SQUARE STATION IS REFIGURED, IT MUST INCLUDE PROVISIONS FOR THE K-TRAIN AS EITHER A TERMINAL OR AN EXTENSION TO QUEENS PLAZA AND BEYOND.

  7. IT IS HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE S.A.S. COULD EVER BE DESIGNED WITH A X-TOWN 125TH STREET TURNOUT IN 1940. TURNOUTS FOR EXPANSION TO THE BRONX, QUEENS AND BROOKLYN I CAN SEE, BUT NOT MANHATTAN. DON’T FORGET, AT THAT TIME, THE LEXINGTON AVENUE LINE WAS RUNNING AND IT BLOCKED ANY MOVE TO THE WESTSIDE AND STILL DOES TODAY. HOW PLANNERS COULD OVERLOOK THIS IS HARD TO KNOW, BUT THEY DID. LUCKILY, THERE IS STILL TIME TO CORRECT THIS BLUNDER. SINCE THE Q-TRAIN IS NOW RUNNING, (1/1/17) THE COMMITMENT SHOULD NOW FOCUS ON THE BRONX, NOT THE X-TOWN 125TH STREET LINE. SINCE THE ONLY TWO-TRAINS WE’LL ARE THE Q & T-TRAINS, PHASE-2 MUST INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM 106TH STREET-TO-149TH STREET. ONCE YOU GET TO 149TH STREET, THERE ARE TWO-DIRECTIONS YOU CAN GO NORTH. MELROSE/WEBSTER OR THIRD AVENUE BOTH TO TREMONT AVENUE AND THEN EAST. I CALL THEM MY “INSIDE” ROUTES. THE 2, 5 & 6-TRAINS BEING THE OUTSIDE ROUTES. PHASE-3 SHOULD BE EVERYTHING LEFT BETWEEN 161ST STREET & EAST 180TH STREET, NOT 63RD STREET-TO-HOUSTON STREET. THAT DONE, YOU CAN NOW FINISH LOWER MANHATTAN SOUTH OF 63RD STREET WITH 3 IF NOT 4-TRACKS. ITS MY CHOICE, BUT I FAVOR THE Q-TRAIN TERMINATING AT 125TH STREET & SECOND AND THE T-TRAIN GOING INTO THE BRONX WHEN THEY BOTH ARE RUNNING. CONNECTIONS/TRANSFERS BETWEEN PARK, LEXINGTON & SECOND AVENUES ON 125TH STREET CAN BE DONE WITH AN AUTOMATED LEVEL-ONE MOVING SIDEWALK. WHY DIG DOWN FIVE-LEVELS JUST TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING AND WAIT ANOTHER GOD KNOWS HOW MANY DECADES TO COMPLETE? IF THE IDEA HERE IS TO EVENTUALLY HAVE THE Q OR T-TRAINS INTERGRATED WITH THE A, B, C OR D-TRAINS GOING UPTOWN, THATS A BAD IDEA. THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT TRANSFER FROM METRO-NORTH TO A SUBWAY TODAY SO WHY WOULD TOMORROW BE ANY DIFFERENT?

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