Comments on: The futureNYCSubway: The IND Second System http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/2010/02/the-futurenycsubway-the-ind-second-system/ Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:32:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ian Hardy http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/2010/02/the-futurenycsubway-the-ind-second-system/comment-page-1/#comment-66023 Ian Hardy Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:39:19 +0000 http://www.vanshnookenraggen.com/_index/?p=737#comment-66023 There are several errors in the IND Second System description. The Myrtle Central Avenue subway was design to serve the Rockaways as a seperate right a way from the LIRR Rockaway line, which has a similar pattern but this subway would have provide a better service than today's Rockaway line because it includes a cross connection with the Queens Blvd line (using the Winfield spur) is outline as planned with an additional line serving parts of southeast of Queens by following along 120th Avenue to Springfield Blvd. This additional line would have come off the new Rockaway line near N. Conduct Avenue if you look at the map closely. The 61st Street Subway was design to connect with the second avenue subway since no Queens connection is outline as planned in the 1929 plan. The 63rd Street subway was mention several times but was not put into plans and construction up until 1968. This is differ from the 61st Street subway as this was designed to have four tracks: a bi level of two, where one pair comes from the Broadway line to connect with the second avenue subway as another pair comes from the sixth avenue line to emerge with the Queens Blvd line. These are seperate connections but they can be use if the junction is well planned out to handle the capacity. The 76th Street tunnel was design to come off the Sixth Avenue line and feed the local tracks of the Queens Blvd Line between Steinway Street and 46th Street and would be serve by a local train, while the 53rd street line becomes the express and the 63rd handles both local and express. As for the Fort Hamilton Subway, someone came up with this idea but it has nothing to do with merging the tracks onto SIR as it wouldn't provide as much service other than that, everything else you explain was actually good but I think you might want to try to find the history of the IND at www.nycsubway.org. You can also find the second avenue suway timelime and the changes of the south fourth street line. These two documents have these plans as well as the other ones not explain anywhere else There are several errors in the IND Second System description.
The Myrtle Central Avenue subway was design to serve the Rockaways as a seperate right a way from the LIRR Rockaway line, which has a similar pattern but this subway would have provide a better service than today’s Rockaway line because it includes a cross connection with the Queens Blvd line (using the Winfield spur) is outline as planned with an additional line serving parts of southeast of Queens by following along 120th Avenue to Springfield Blvd. This additional line would have come off the new Rockaway line near N. Conduct Avenue if you look at the map closely.
The 61st Street Subway was design to connect with the second avenue subway since no Queens connection is outline as planned in the 1929 plan.
The 63rd Street subway was mention several times but was not put into plans and construction up until 1968. This is differ from the 61st Street subway as this was designed to have four tracks: a bi level of two, where one pair comes from the Broadway line to connect with the second avenue subway as another pair comes from the sixth avenue line to emerge with the Queens Blvd line. These are seperate connections but they can be use if the junction is well planned out to handle the capacity.
The 76th Street tunnel was design to come off the Sixth Avenue line and feed the local tracks of the Queens Blvd Line between Steinway Street and 46th Street and would be serve by a local train, while the 53rd street line becomes the express and the 63rd handles both local and express.
As for the Fort Hamilton Subway, someone came up with this idea but it has nothing to do with merging the tracks onto SIR as it wouldn’t provide as much service
other than that, everything else you explain was actually good but I think you might want to try to find the history of the IND at http://www.nycsubway.org. You can also find the second avenue suway timelime and the changes of the south fourth street line. These two documents have these plans as well as the other ones not explain anywhere else

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I been reading this article for about an hour, and I can say, you’re done a lot of research on IND Second System. Your post is very well explained.

Keep up the good work, and let me be the first to say congratulation.

Good luck

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